Philosopher Gregory Sams joins Kevin to discuss his concept on the sun as a living, sentient entity through his book "Sun of God". "It's a highly conscious being on a level that is inconceivable to us," he said. In 1967, Gregory Sams was pioneering natural foods in the UK. He conceived and launched the original Vege Burger in 1982 and built it up for the next 6 years. During 1998, Greg moved out of food and into fractals, founding Strange Attractions - the world's only shop dedicated to chaos theory (London 1990). Trading as chaos works, he went on to produce and license fractal images worldwide on everything from posters to book covers to fashion fabrics. Gregory spent the first 7 years of the next millennium writing "Sun of God", in which, as he puts it, the biggest elephant-in-the-room that you could ever imagine is unveiled.